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Joined: 16 May 2007 Posts: 28 Location: Vermont, USA
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Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:20 pm Post subject: New InterMountain Cab Forwards Fiasco |
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Tony is mad about poor quality of the new InterMountain Cab Forwards. His full take on this with a couple of telling pictures is here.
We'd love to know what do you think? |
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paul_r L1: Learner
Joined: 28 Jun 2008 Posts: 2
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:37 am Post subject: |
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I got mine about 2 weeks ago, and discovered exactly the same things, plus mine has a bind in the side rods on one side of one engine. Also, the sound in mine sorta sucks - especially when, at full throtle, to loco is going about 5 MPH pulling 16 Kadee cars up a 1% grade, ane the Tsunami is making a sound like a teakettle!
I sent IMR an email about it, but they haven't responded yet. It is a beautiful locomotive, but that's a lot of money to spend on a static display. _________________ Paul Rankin |
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printmore1 L1: Learner
Joined: 13 Dec 2009 Posts: 1 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 12:29 pm Post subject: Original issue IMR AC-12 |
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I have 2 AC-12 of the first issue. These have the problem of low speed because of gearing problem. I have been informed that IMR is offering replacement gears and drivers for DIY installation. Is this worthwhile and any comments re difficulty on new installation. Thanks and regards. _________________ Leonard Stern, Home of the Montreal Belt Line (CN/CP MTL) 1946 all steam and sound |
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durango51 L1: Learner
Joined: 14 Dec 2009 Posts: 1 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:17 am Post subject: Re: New InterMountain Cab Forwards Fiasco |
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| webmaster wrote: | Tony is mad about poor quality of the new InterMountain Cab Forwards. His full take on this with a couple of telling pictures is here.
We'd love to know what do you think? |
I bought a 1st edtion when it came out from First Hobby. All wheels were out of gauge and the engine ran at a top digitally measured speed of 23.4 mph. I am an experienced motive power customizer and know what I am doing in modifying or repairing models. The drivers all lost quarter. I talked to IM at the Anaheim NMRA show in Aug 08. They had suggested that I return it to them for a replacement with a new and improved model. I finally recieved a replacement on Nov. 25 2009!!. It ran well out of the box although it was unlettered. My original was decorated. I lubed the model as indicated with light weight oil. I ran the engine on our club layout. After 15 minutes of operation the model would only move at slow speed. The motor was at full power. The internal driveline was slipping and is most likely a universal socket on the motor is loose. I have not opened the model to investigate. After seeing your photo of the tender I afraid of what I might find in the loco. I will repair this model myself as it is good looking and the running gear seems smooth. I will replace the motor and drive components and will notify IM. I will also NEVER buy another IM product. |
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jmay L1: Learner
Joined: 14 Dec 2009 Posts: 1
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Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Does anyone know if this applies to N-scale as well? I have two on reservation at $260.00 ea., but if they aren't any good then I don't want them no matter how pretty. Has this been a recurring problem with all Intermountain locos, or just the AC-12? |
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onetrack101 L1: Learner
Joined: 18 Apr 2010 Posts: 1
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Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 8:40 am Post subject: N Scale Intermountain AC-12 Plug - words of caution. |
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Hi all,
Before you tell me this is my own fault - I know that, but first thing on a Sunday morning it's an easy mistake if you're lazy!
I got my N Scale Intermountain AC-12 a month or so ago and fitted an MRC sound decoder that has with an 8-pin plug. It has worked ok but, for a loco at that price I wanted a better decoder so ordered one of the ESU Loksound decoders which arrived yesterday.
This morning was the first chance I got to fit it so I got myself set-up and got started.
The Loksound Micro comes with an NEM 6-pin plug, so that had to go and I didn't have a separate 8-pin plug but I did have the 8-pin dummy plug from the AC-12.
I sat down and carefully cut the copper tracks on the dummy plug, checked they were cut properly with a multimeter and then sat down to solder the wires.
Intermountain have very thoughtfully numbered the top of the dummy plug with all 8 pins numbered.
This is the point where I remind listeners that in N scale we don't get many locos with 8-pin sockets - in fact this was my first. Usually, I have to hardwire anything that isn't plug and play.
I went to the web, pulled down the NMRA RP on electrical interface and got the color codes for an 8-pin plug on page 2 of the RP and then sat down to solder the wires.
10 minutes later I was all wired up and ready to go.
I use a device called a SPROG II to do my programming from a computer - look it up, it's a great device and works very well with sound decoders, better than anything else I've tried.
The decoder buzzed at me each time I programmed a CV and seemed to read back ok (but the SPROG is current limited....)
I then transferred the AC-12 to the layout - FIZZ! POP!
20 minutes later and comparing the wiring on the MRC 8-pin plug to my newly wired Intermountain plug, it dawned on me - the Intermountain plug has pins 5-8 numbered in reverse.....
That will be a new decoder from Tony and a grumbling letter to Intermountain....
If the plug hadn't been numbered, I'd have read page 3 of the NMRA RP and seen the proper numbering for the pins but sadly I didn't....
I suppose it boils down to RTFM in the end...
Hope these words save someone else from the same mistake  |
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